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This week we continue our real life horror series with part 1 of Ed and Lorraine Warren. These famous paranormal investigators have spawned several horror movies, hear the real life stories of some of their most famous cases. The Josh joins in to discuss proper men's footwear and fashion and more!
What up
Rebecca Smith:this is very hard to do because I'm wearing a hat so I have my glasses on and I know its the chair, its not my fault
Angeline Compau:squeak, you make noises just like Josh now
Rebecca Smith:its like Halloween, unnecessary noise. He pulled to you today. I was in here we're in the living room working and he came in and he's like I have to go to the bathroom like and go. So he goes in there and I was watching a movie, and it was all loud. And then all of a sudden it got quiet. I hear him go I don't like it when you when you pause it when I'm pooping. I said, I didn't pause it to hear you poop. Who would do that?
Angeline Compau:No, who would do that?
Rebecca Smith:Who would do that? No, the movie just got quiet and he's like, Okay.
Angeline Compau:Oh my god. I am nervous poker.
Rebecca Smith:I know. That's why I thought of you
Angeline Compau:That is me and bathrooms echo and stuff like people need to put more stuff in their bathrooms or whatever their sound
Rebecca Smith:To absorb sound?
Angeline Compau:. Yes, they need sound absorption. I hate that bathrooms are too echoey
Rebecca Smith:Oh my gosh. So, Josh texted you that he wanted you to bring him a coke.
Angeline Compau:Apparently that's what it meant. I, it says can you put BK me up a couple coke. And I was like, huh? I don't know what that means.
Rebecca Smith:Oh my gosh, that's awesome. So, what's up? What's new? What's shakin.
Angeline Compau:Yesterday was homecoming for the children.
Rebecca Smith:Yes, it was.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:I saw the pictures.
Angeline Compau:It was so cute.
Rebecca Smith:So okay, so what was the sequence of events you went where?
Angeline Compau:Oh, shoot, so I got up. I went to pick up Reese she had a nail appointment at 11
Rebecca Smith:Yeah
Angeline Compau:picked her up. Got her nails done.
Rebecca Smith:She looks so much like you by the way.
Angeline Compau:I know. But okay, yeah. I'll get back to that. Got her nails done. I had originally planned on taking her to get her makeup done, because usually you can go to like the makeup counters, but because of COVID you cannot and they're like we're not putting on makeup. We're not doing that. And I'm like, Are you kidding me? They don't want to dirty brushes or whatever the hell? I don't know. So I was like, well, crap, I'll just buy some makeup. And
Rebecca Smith:we'll do it
Angeline Compau:and we'll do it. And so we went to Sephora, and I bought some stuff for her that I was like you can use this even after?
Rebecca Smith:Yeah,
Angeline Compau:so I'm like stacking up her little makeup pile.
Rebecca Smith:Oh that's cute.
Angeline Compau:I do her makeup. She looks fabulous, by the way.
Rebecca Smith:She did look good.
Angeline Compau:Yeah. But I think she washed it off when she got to her friend's house.
Rebecca Smith:Really?
Angeline Compau:I don't know if she did or not. Maybe she didn't maybe it wore off. I don't know. But they definitely fixed her
Rebecca Smith:It's the look Angeline. eyeliner up because I can't do those little wing things and I was trying not to make her look like too adult I think she's got like the cutest little porcelain skin. I don't want to make her look too grown up. So I was like I just did like very modest eyeliner and they just went dark liquid wings and I was okay. I mean I get it. I get it.
Angeline Compau:It is so anywho after that after I took her all out and stuff and she went to her friend's house I went to Rob and April's had to see Ryder and Jacqueline. Ella and Julian they took all their pictures and gave each other their little flowers. And I was like Oh, my god
Rebecca Smith:so you so then did they go to the Hickmott's?
Angeline Compau:Yes.
Rebecca Smith:Okay.
Angeline Compau:Yep. So then yeah, Ryder and Jacqueline. What's the Hickmott's? Ella and Julian went somewhere else also to take pictures.
Rebecca Smith:Okay,
Angeline Compau:like another friend's, like randomly. Reese was. Her friend group was taking pictures at the house like literally next door to Rob and April.
Rebecca Smith:Oh, yeah.
Angeline Compau:So we walked over there. We saw her take pictures with her friends. Nice. I was like, how handy was that?
Rebecca Smith:I know, right?
Angeline Compau:We just walked over. Oh my gosh.
Rebecca Smith:So then what do you do? After all, how long did that take?
Angeline Compau:Um, it took a while. The dance started at six. But I think everybody kind of went a little late. And
Rebecca Smith:yeah.
Angeline Compau:It was just a hot mess that I had to take my mom home? She was like, Okay, well, we're all just sitting around. Can we go now? And I was like, Oh my god, grandma geez. well we're not taking pictures anymore. And I'm like, oh my god.
Rebecca Smith:Wow.
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah. And then Friday was the homecoming parade.
Angeline Compau:Oh, yeah. We went to that.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah,
Angeline Compau:yeah.
Rebecca Smith:Got somestreet candy for the little girls that were at dance class.
Angeline Compau:Oh, yeah.
Rebecca Smith:Yes. Nobody showed up to my class, which is cool cuz I didn't want to...
Angeline Compau:So then we we took a trip to the pub.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah. So we had a drink.
Angeline Compau:That was great. I needed that.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah. We went to the pub Saturday, Josh and I and there was, we, we couldn't ge anybody to help us. It was so
Angeline Compau:was it packed?
Rebecca Smith:Well it wasn't that packed but I think because they're understaffed. It's a little chaotic.
Angeline Compau:Oh,
Rebecca Smith:so
Angeline Compau:where was your boyfriend?
Rebecca Smith:He doesn't work there anymore?
Angeline Compau:He quit. Why?
Rebecca Smith:I don't know, because he's not my boyfriend that's probably why I don't know.
Angeline Compau:Well, he has a huge crush on you.
Rebecca Smith:No, he doesn't.
Angeline Compau:Yes he does.
Rebecca Smith:He's mean to me.
Angeline Compau:Yeah, that's like what little boys do when they like girls?
Rebecca Smith:Well, he doesn't work there anymore. So
Angeline Compau:I don't know he quit.
Rebecca Smith:For somebody that has a crush on me. I never got free drinks or anything. I'm just kidding, I might have. I don't know.
Angeline Compau:Maybe you did. Yeah, we don't know.
Rebecca Smith:We don't know.
Angeline Compau:We don't know. Yeah. But so back to Reese. I forgot to
Rebecca Smith:Oh, sorry.
Angeline Compau:I forgot this part.
Rebecca Smith:circle back,
Angeline Compau:circling back. Well, because you you and Josh met my other brother the other day.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah,
Angeline Compau:but you've met him a bunch of times. But Josh really hasn't. We look more alike than Rob and I
Rebecca Smith:yes.
Angeline Compau:And so his daughter just looks Spitting Image kind of like me even as a baby like, her baby pictures. I was like, Whoa, she looks like me.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah,
Angeline Compau:so I always joke around I'm gonna take her
Rebecca Smith:Well. around and people will think that she's my kid. And I think
Angeline Compau:And like you likek you texted me You're like that's what happened the other day when we were like out shopping and I think people thought she was mine. I was like, cool, cuz I would have been 16 when I had her. she looks just like you. I said I could be her mother.
Rebecca Smith:You could be her mother.
Angeline Compau:I could.
Rebecca Smith:And 16 is not a first stretch because in our progressive little town here.
Angeline Compau:Yeah, that's true.
Rebecca Smith:On homecoming court. We had a girl that was seven months pregnant her and her boyfriend.
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:were nominated for homecoming king and queen.
Angeline Compau:Yes.
Rebecca Smith:So I don't know if that's super Hicksville country or if it's progressive
Angeline Compau:actually that seems very Orton tukey that seems like it Not that there's anything wrong with that
Rebecca Smith:I'm saying we're progressive
Angeline Compau:we are
Rebecca Smith:I'm saying we are a progressive town
Angeline Compau:we are
Rebecca Smith:who supports young families
Angeline Compau:I guess her boyfriend won, but she didn't
Rebecca Smith:yeah that's what I heard that that he I knew I thought because they were standing like when they announced it at halftime
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:they were standing like the guys were standing behind their girls and he won for King.
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:And so and they announced the king first which I think is kind of crappy because guys like Josh said, guys don't care they should announce the girl first and then let the guy go but the girls the bigger deal I think which is why they announced that last
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:but anywho so the guy wins so automatically the girls thinking cool I won too right, that's what I would think if I was in a couple with somebody and he won.
Angeline Compau:Well it's not like you vote for a couple you vote for King and you vote for Queen
Rebecca Smith:I know, but even still even still if my boyfriend won we were both nominated.
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:And my boyfriend won were associated together. I would like I wouldn't vote for two separate people. I don't know. I don't think I would would you?
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:Oh man.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:well, apparently that's why I'm in the minority. Because Yeah, the guy won and she didn't and then I think was it you that told me that she was super upset about it?
Angeline Compau:I heard she was I felt kind of bad. But at the same time, I was like, You can't be like a sore loser about it. Like crying in the bathroom. And then I was reminded that she's super pregnant and hormonal and I was like, Okay, okay, she gets a pass because she probably was super hormonal.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah.
Angeline Compau:Our biggest fan Michelle. She's the one that told me that she was like, she's like super hormonal and I was like, Oh, yeah.
Rebecca Smith:Michelle was so funny. She comes out. She's like curmudgeon! to Josh. You're the curmudgeon. I'm a curmudgeon, too.
Angeline Compau:Oh, she's my favorite. She's my favorite. You're my favorite. Michelle Greg Louganis,
Rebecca Smith:Greg Louganis, forever.
Angeline Compau:She said that she's not sick of a Greg Louganis stuff. And I said good
Rebecca Smith:Thank you Michelle
Angeline Compau:yes. Oh, yeah. Good. So we'll keep it up.
Rebecca Smith:unlike somebody that we know,
Angeline Compau:right
Rebecca Smith:So this is what's gonna go down. We're gonna record two episodes in one shot cuz I'm gonna be out of town.
Angeline Compau:Yes.
Rebecca Smith:So I know that I just threw that on you. So I'm not going to. Usually we alternate so I'm taking it both episodes with one topic.
Angeline Compau:I like it,
Rebecca Smith:because there's a lot of shit on this one
Angeline Compau:I like it,
Rebecca Smith:and you know what I did do research. I have a whole Google Doc thing written out. But I'm pretty much going to read off Wikipedia. And just some other stuff that I found.
Angeline Compau:I like it.
Rebecca Smith:Okay. So my topic this week is Ed and Lorraine Warren.
Angeline Compau:I love it.
Rebecca Smith:And you know who they are. Because if you watch the movies,
Angeline Compau:if you guys don't know who they are, watch The Conjuring and scare the piss out of yourself.
Rebecca Smith:Not just The Conjuring they have like, just listen to this. Okay,
Angeline Compau:okay.
Rebecca Smith:So okay, Ed and Lorraine Warren. They are paranormal investigators and authors and they're associated with like a bunch of prominent cases, not just for The Conjuring. We'll get into all of them, but this is what it says that Ed's a self taught self professed, demonologist author and lecturer.
Angeline Compau:Self taught no lessons!
Rebecca Smith:Self taught bitches!
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:And Lorraine professed to be a clairvoyant and a light trance medium who worked closely with her husband. So this duo goes out on all these paranormal investigations. She just died. She just died in 2019. She was 92
Angeline Compau:Oh, wow.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah. So in 1952, they founded the New England society for psychic research the NESPR. So official,
Angeline Compau:Oh my goodness
Rebecca Smith:the oldest ghost hunting group in New England, they wrote a bunch of books they went on, they claim to have investigated over 10,000 cases during their career.
Angeline Compau:That sounds like a lot
Rebecca Smith:sounds like a made up number.
Angeline Compau:I was just gonna say a stretch, maybe?.
Rebecca Smith:They had an official website, the NESPR. They say that they use a variety of individuals, including medical doctors, researchers, police officers, nurses, college students, and members of the clergy, in all of their investigations. So basically, like anybody that is interested in like, paranormal or conspiracy theory type stuff would probably join up and be like, I'm a lawyer, but I'm also a ghost hunter kind of thing
Angeline Compau:Yeah
Rebecca Smith:I guess, I don't know. I don't know. So I think like this couple though, is like the most popular of paranormal investigators because I mean, all the movies that have been spawned from these people are, it's ridiculous
Angeline Compau:it is, the're so good
Rebecca Smith:but they do also have all of their skeptics as well. So then they opened up an occult Museum,
Angeline Compau:which I want to go to,
Rebecca Smith:it's closed,
Angeline Compau:but I want to go
Rebecca Smith:I know
Angeline Compau:let's break in.
Rebecca Smith:It's in Monroe, Connecticut. And it was in the back of their house, I believe.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:I understand. So their son they were operating with the help of their son. I think it closed down because of COVID
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:and then I don't know if it's gonna be opened back up or anything but there have been like break ins and stuff like that people trying to get like a memorabilia, I guess.
Angeline Compau:Annabel
Rebecca Smith:they displayed claimed haunted objects and artifacts from around the world. Many of the artifacts from their most famous investigations are featured their Annabel which Annabel is not really like an Annabel it's a raggedy ann doll
Angeline Compau:which is even creepier like when I think about.
Rebecca Smith:Have you seen the pictures
Angeline Compau:Well, yes, because I went on a deep dive after I watched The Conjuring
Rebecca Smith:yeah
Angeline Compau:and Annabel I went on a deep Warren dive, because I was like this is crazy. But I was like why would you make the Annabel doll look like you did in the movies when the real one the raggedy ann is way creepier
Rebecca Smith:because my generation grew up on raggedy ann so I don't think of raggedy ann as being anything scary.
Angeline Compau:Oh, okay.
Rebecca Smith:raggedy ann and Andy were like, I had lunch boxes of raggedy ann, and
Angeline Compau:when I look at those those things are creepy as fuck
Rebecca Smith:stuffed animals and yeah, I know.
Angeline Compau:No, I cannot look at those. I'm like get, burn it. burn that shit. That's weird.
Rebecca Smith:See I think the Annabel doll looks much scarier than raggedy ann
Angeline Compau:I mean she doesn't look great I'll give you that but but I'm
Rebecca Smith:she looks a little rough
Angeline Compau:she Yeah, that's another thing she that's she just looks like she's been like,
Rebecca Smith:possessed by a demon.
Angeline Compau:No. in the sewers. Like she looks like she'd been in the trash.
Rebecca Smith:I think she was in the trash at one point, wasn't she?
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:I don't know. Okay, so notable investigation. So these are all of the things what are the most notable ones? Not all. 10,000. But
Angeline Compau:yeah.
Rebecca Smith:Okay, so Annabel, obviously, top of the list. According to the Warrens, the year 1968 two roommates claimed their Raggedy Ann doll was possessed by the spirit of a young girl named Annabel Higgins. The Warrens took the doll telling the roommates it was being manipulated by an inhuman presence and put it on display in their museum.
Angeline Compau:Okay, I believe it
Rebecca Smith:and that inspired several of the films conjuring Annabel, Anable 2, Annabel comes home all those whatever. Now then, I was looking at like Annabel Higgins like is that a real person? And I found a story on here. It's from the ghost hunt. uk.com So this says the true story of the Annabell doll a story that changed or ruined lives. So it says the earliest story can be traced of Annabel is in the early 70s when a girl named Donna who was a college student at the time, and then I don't know if this is true, or if they're just taking this for the movie. I mean, who knows?
Angeline Compau:Okay,
Rebecca Smith:nobody knows people.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:she bought it. Okay, the doll was given to her as a gift from her mother, she bought it secondhand at a rundown old hobby store. The Annabel doll apart from being quite ugly, seemed at first to be nothing more than a normal doll until Donna's roommate Angie began to notice that the doll was moving around the apartment by itself. very slight movements.
Angeline Compau:No, thank you.
Rebecca Smith:But eventually, they would come home after leaving Annabel on the bed on the it says on the bedroom which doesn't make sense. on the bedroom and find her on a chair in the main room in short Annabella doll became fully mobile.
Angeline Compau:No thanks.
Rebecca Smith:But of course, both of them being women of logic they brushed it off. It wasn't until their friend Lou started coming over did the activity escalate. He hated the Annabel doll and was convinced there was something evil and unnatural about it. Then they began to find pieces of paper around the house with the words help us or help Lou written on them and it only got worse.
Angeline Compau:Oh god.
Rebecca Smith:One night Donna returned home to find a blood red liquid all over Annabel's hands. The liquid was oozing from the doll itself. So then they decided to call a medium. The medium spent time alone with Annabel the Annabel doll and proclaimed It was a seven year old girl named Annabel Higgins, who had been possessing the doll. Apparently she had been found dead in a field. She told the girls that the spirit of Annabel found them both trustworthy and wanted to stay. wanted to stay safe with them. This was not the true story of the Annabel doll. Okay, now with the medium she could have been making it up but demons have been known to mimic young children to gain the trust and access lives in the mind of those involved.
Angeline Compau:I was just thinking that because what seven year old does the weird things that that doll did? No, seven year old does that she like wants to watch TV and color and shit.
Rebecca Smith:So the girls taking pity on an Annabel doll gave permission for Annabel to stay with them. All thanks to the expert, dead person speaker. Okay, so then, Lou began to have vivid nightmares where Annabel would be in his bed, climbing up his legs as he was frozen and unable to move. Then slowly making her way up his chest and choking him to death. He would wake terrified, freezing and freaking out. At the same around the same time Lou and Angie and Donna were playing planning a road trip when they heard movement in Donna's room. Lou, being the man went to check. The noises were never ending and very loud. He threw open the door to find nothing changed apart from the fact that Annabel had moved from the bed to the corner of the room, where she sat staring directly at him.
Angeline Compau:Oh God, I hate it. hate it.
Rebecca Smith:He's been around after feeling someone behind him and then felt an intense burning pain on his back. He pulled off his shirt and was absolutely horrified to find three claw marks carved deep into his flesh. Annabel the doll had done this he knew it. They knew this was no little girl the feeling in the apartment since since the mediums visit was evil and unwelcoming.
Angeline Compau:Oh geez.
Rebecca Smith:So they called in father Darnell, who in turn called the legendary Ed and Lorraine Warren. It didn't take the Warrens long to call out the demon possessing the Annabel doll they told the girls the demon was simply manipulating the doll to get close to the girls and eventually take control of Donna.
Angeline Compau:Oh,
Rebecca Smith:so the priest performed an exorcism on the house and the Warrens took Annabel home to be locked away, and even stayed off the highway because he was concerned that the evil spirit might fuck with the car. Sure enough, the car cut out numerous times the power steering continuously failed, and even the brakes were giving him trouble. Ed stopped the car openly. Stop the car, open the bag and sprinkle the doll with holy water, which for a while, stopped the activity
Angeline Compau:good.
Rebecca Smith:Ed placed the doll on his desk and left it there. They would later report that it would levitate frequently. But after a while just seemed to quit and lay down probably something they weren't. They just weren't scared. But Annabel soon was more active in the Warrens house she began to appear in more parts of the house without anyone moving her. Ed decided to call a priest to perform another exorcism but the priests didn't take the doll seriously. You're just a doll. You can't hurt anyone. He shouted at Annabel on his way home. His brakes failed and his car totaled in a horrendous accident. Man, the priest survived but his injuries were lifelong. He called Lorraine later on and said the last thing he saw was the face of the doll in the rearview mirror.
Angeline Compau:Nope.
Rebecca Smith:Oh,
Angeline Compau:nope, nope nope,
Rebecca Smith:nope, nope, nope.
Angeline Compau:Nope.
Rebecca Smith:Annabel today remains locked away in a blessed case in the basement of the Warrens well, in their museum now. The science states do not open after the passing Ed and Lorraine lived alone but to not go down in the basement which is a makeshift haunted museum. Destroying the vessel would only release the entity and allow it to roam free and choose another vessel.
Angeline Compau:Oh, no.
Rebecca Smith:So then I was reading the night that the Annabel movie was released. She did like a gathering in some place in Connecticut
Angeline Compau:Lorraine.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah,
Angeline Compau:okay.
Rebecca Smith:And she was telling like this true story of that Annabel doll or whatever.
Angeline Compau:Oh, gosh. Oh, I can't look at it.
Rebecca Smith:And they were thing like yeah that that it's in the museum and there was one instance where a guy came into the museum and like totally was like oh whatever I don't believe this shit whatever
Angeline Compau:right
Rebecca Smith:and it's you know on the case that says do not touch and he was like
Angeline Compau:touching it
Rebecca Smith:touching the glass and stuff like that. And then they said shortly after he got kicked out of the museum and then got in a car accident and died
Angeline Compau:for real.
Rebecca Smith:That's what it says
Angeline Compau:You think that really happened though.
Rebecca Smith:I don't know.
Angeline Compau:I don't know either
Rebecca Smith:that was in. Where's that one, i have it here? It was in the like a Connecticut newspaper. That story.
Angeline Compau:Dang.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah. Yeah. So Annabel?
Angeline Compau:Oh, I don't like her.
Rebecca Smith:Do you believe she's real?
Angeline Compau:I don't know.
Rebecca Smith:Do you believe in demons and all that stuff.
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:Yep. I do.
Angeline Compau:I do.
Rebecca Smith:Okay, so the next one. The witch family 1971. The Warrens claim that the harrisville Rhode Island home of the Perron family was haunted by a witch who lived there in the early 19th century
Angeline Compau:Oh, this is the second movie.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah,
Angeline Compau:okay.
Rebecca Smith:According to the Warrens, Bathsheba Sherman caused cursed the land so that whoever lived there somehow died a terrible death. And this is the conjuring This is the first one.
Angeline Compau:Oh, that's the first one. Oh, okay.
Rebecca Smith:Lorraine Warren was a consultant to the production and appeared in a cameo role in the film. Yeah, so then I was looking at the witch family to see if I could find anything on that like a real thing. And so, at the end of that movie, they show pictures of all of the real family and everything.
Angeline Compau:Yeah, I don't like that.
Rebecca Smith:Why?
Angeline Compau:I don't like it. I don't like it when it's real.
Rebecca Smith:Why? I think it makes it so much better when it's real
Angeline Compau:creepy.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah. So the real Perron family or Perron, I don't know how to say it lived in the farmhouse for approximately 10 years. Located in the small county of Harrisburg, Rhode Island, Roger Perrin and his wife Carolyn purchased the home in the winter of 1970. The 200 acre property offered plenty of space for them to raise their five daughters. They moved out in June of 1980. So yes, Lorraine Warren acted as a consultant on the movie to director James Wan and the filmmakers she even she even visited the Wilmington, North Carolina set, as well as some of the members of the Perron family themselves.
Angeline Compau:Oh,
Rebecca Smith:yeah, they've all put their support behind the film, having already come together to support their daughter Andrea's self published 2011 book. Excuse me about their experience titled House of darkness House of light
Angeline Compau:Oh
Rebecca Smith:I wanna read that.
Angeline Compau:Nope, not me.
Rebecca Smith:Why,
Angeline Compau:cuz, first of all, I love scary movies. But that was the first movie in a long time that I saw that I couldn't sleep after I watched it.
Rebecca Smith:Really?
Angeline Compau:I told you that after we watched it, I didn't I couldn't even go in my basement. So I don't want to read your book. No offense, but no thank you
Rebecca Smith:rude
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:so like Lorraine, various members of the Perron family who were friends with producer Tony derosa Grund also visited the set. Andrea as expected has been the most vocal of the group while her sister Christine has been the most reluctant to talk about her experiences in the house
Angeline Compau:Oh why,
Rebecca Smith:I don't know the most haunting spirit and maybe she was she the one that was the most affected I can't remember
Angeline Compau:that's what I was wondering to.
Rebecca Smith:Most haunting spirit in the movie is that of suspected which Bathsheba Sherman born Bathsheba Thayer in Rhode Island in 1812. She married fellow Rhode Islander Judson Sherman. One year her senior in Thompson, Connecticut. The two were married by Vernon Stiles, a local justice of the peace Bathsheba filled the role of housewife while her husband worked as a farmer on their land. fairly well off Bathsheba and Judson had a son Herbert, born when Bathsheba was 37 in March of 1849. It is possible they had three other children as well all of them did not survive past the age of seven.
Angeline Compau:Oh
Rebecca Smith:though, no census records can be found to confirm those reports the family usually took in a border most likely to help them on the farm. The only photograph that is service that could possibly include suspected which Bathsheba Sherman is pictured here.
Angeline Compau:Oh, did she hang herself.
Rebecca Smith:Well, that's what happened in the movie.
Angeline Compau:Yeah, I thought she really did.
Rebecca Smith:Okay, there's no hard evidence to support that. Bathsheba Sherman was really a witch, only legend in local folklore. Having lived on a neighboring farm in the 1800s suspicion grew when an infant mysteriously died in her care. When the baby was examined, it was determined that the mortal wound was caused by a large sewing needle that had been inpaled at the base of the child's skull
Angeline Compau:gross
Rebecca Smith:so the townspeople believe that Bathsheba sacrificed the infant as an offering to the devil, due to insufficient evidence, a court found that she was innocent of any wrongdoing. Despite her name being clear legally, the public was not convinced in her Book House of darkness House of light. Andrea Perrin describes her mother Carolyn talking to a man who she refers to as Mr. McEachern. Supposedly a bit of local historian Mr. McCarran told Carolyn that Bathsheba treated the help badly and that she starved and beat her Sherman farm staff.
Angeline Compau:Not Cool.
Rebecca Smith:Bathsheba died as an old woman on May 25 1885, roughly four years after her husband Judson Sherman's death in 1881, Bathsheba lived to see her son Herbert a farmer, like his father, marry his fiance Anna in 1881. various articles online will have you believe her body body literally turned to stone when she died, or that but Bathsheba died from a bizarre form of paralysis that puzzled and frightened doctors. Their basis is never more than legend in local folklore. And the same articles often state that Bathsheba had four children all of whom died before reaching the age of four. However, US government census records contradict this. Since we know that Bathsheba had a son Herbert Sherman, who lived a long life as a farmer, and had a family of his own. As for the three other children, we can only find an official record of their existence. So she did not hang herself.
Angeline Compau:Okay.
Rebecca Smith:Okay,
Angeline Compau:so we know that's not true. That's not cool.
Rebecca Smith:The family's connection to the spirit of Bathsheba Sherman came at the suggestion of paranormal investigators, Ed and Lorraine Warren, the mother, Carolyn told Ed and Lorraine about an incident that happened a few years earlier. She said that she had been lying on the sofa, and all of a sudden felt a piercing type of pain in her calf. And then the muscle began to spasm. Well I get that sometimes?
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:Upon examination,
Angeline Compau:it's called a charley horse.
Rebecca Smith:Upon examination, she noticed a puddle of blood. At the point of impact she checks she checked for the bees Oh to check for bees, or anything else that could have caused the puncture in her leg, but found nothing. In her daughter's book Andrea describes the wound is a perfectly concentric circle, as if a large sewing needle had impaled her skin. On her calf, though it wasn't on her... That's reaching. I feel like that's reaching.
Angeline Compau:Yeah, yep, yep, yep.
Rebecca Smith:So eight generations of one extended family lived and died in that house prior to our arrival, says Andrea Perron. Some of them never left. The Black Book of Burleigh Ville. The town's former public record reveals that over the course of its existence, the property had been hosted to suicide by hanging, one suicide by poison, the rape and murder of an 11 year old Prudence Arnold by a farmhand two drownings and the passing of foreman who froze to death in addition to other tragic losses of life, man, imagine that house
Angeline Compau:I would not move into that house,
Rebecca Smith:would you Okay, so now if you were gonna buy like an old farmhouse and you like an old old farmhouse back from the 1800
Angeline Compau:guess what I wouldn't do
Rebecca Smith:buy it
Angeline Compau:ever buy an old farmhouse or any old house
Rebecca Smith:but i like that,
Angeline Compau:but if it was built before, like 1930 not buying it.
Rebecca Smith:Really?
Angeline Compau:No,
Rebecca Smith:really?
Angeline Compau:You know what I won't even go like 1950 if it was built before that I'm not buying it because it's haunted. guaranteed
Rebecca Smith:I don't
Angeline Compau:no.
Rebecca Smith:I love that stuff though. Like not hunting stuff but I love like old history like I watched on million dollar listing and stuff like that in Los Angeles and all the 1920s homes and stuff like that they, in Beverly Hills and all the history that's kind of cool.
Angeline Compau:Like the whole house would have to have been gutted and updated for me to have to even consider it but even still
Rebecca Smith:It's not just that, its the land its everything I mean like all these people like they were drowned in a lake and they were
Angeline Compau:yeah yeah you know that's gonna be hard pass for me that's what happened with old houses it's guaranteed someone died in it I don't like it
Rebecca Smith:I'm die in this house and haunt it
Angeline Compau:I don't like that. Just go where spirits supposed to go? Go do something don't don't hang around
Rebecca Smith:but I want to be with you.
Angeline Compau:no, no, no, no way
Rebecca Smith:Why do you hate me Angeline?
Angeline Compau:I don't like ghosts, man,
Rebecca Smith:but what if it's me?
Angeline Compau:you're gonna freak me out. And I don't I don't like that.
Rebecca Smith:Why?
Angeline Compau:I don't like ghosts
Rebecca Smith:I won't freak you out.
Angeline Compau:Okay, like if you sit and watch vanderpump rules with me That's cool.
Rebecca Smith:I'll do that.
Angeline Compau:Okay, then you can hang out but if you're going to try and like knock shit over and make noises and wake me up when I'm sleeping 315 in the morning every day I'm gonna be upset
Rebecca Smith:I have to let you know, I'm there
Angeline Compau:No.
Rebecca Smith:What would be an appropriate time for me to visit?
Angeline Compau:like dinnertime
Rebecca Smith:what is like an appropriate sign that I can give you that i'm there.
Angeline Compau:Oh, I don't know cuz I don't like lights flickering. I don't like noises I don't know.
Rebecca Smith:What if I just like, like, write, I love Jax in like the steam on the shower?
Angeline Compau:Oh, okay. Okay.
Rebecca Smith:On your steamed up mirror mirror when
Angeline Compau:Oh, wait, does that mean you're in the shower with me? Because I don't like that either.
Rebecca Smith:No you're in the shower. I'm just in the bathroom writing on the mirror.
Angeline Compau:I don't be looking at me.
Rebecca Smith:I'm not gonna look at you.
Angeline Compau:Don't look at me in the shower. Okay
Rebecca Smith:I don't want to
Angeline Compau:please don't
Rebecca Smith:I don't want to
Angeline Compau:you don't know what I have going on
Rebecca Smith:Is it grotesque? Now I wanna look
Angeline Compau:well by time like this actually happens I might be grotesque. I don't know.
Rebecca Smith:You never know
Angeline Compau:I'll be aged.
Rebecca Smith:You might I might die on my plane crash trip.
Angeline Compau:You're not no, you're not your not?
Rebecca Smith:It, that could happen. Okay?
Angeline Compau:Don't even go there. Don't bring that bad juju around.
Rebecca Smith:Seriously, this is I think about it non stop, Angeline I've been I've made myself sick thinking about it.
Angeline Compau:You need to take some drugs.
Rebecca Smith:I can't
Angeline Compau:I'll get you some drugs.
Rebecca Smith:I can't.
Angeline Compau:Do you want drugs?
Rebecca Smith:No.
Angeline Compau:Okay. Drink a lot.
Rebecca Smith:It's my anxiety I can't help it
Angeline Compau:drink a lot before you
Rebecca Smith:I have to prepare for the worst
Angeline Compau:no you don't
Rebecca Smith:I literally am going to write down all the passwords and shit so you know how to run this podcast when I'm gone.
Angeline Compau:Oh my gosh. First of all, I'm not doing the podcast if you're gone.
Rebecca Smith:I know, but you have to know how to like save our episodes so that my legacy lives on.
Angeline Compau:Okay, I suppose
Rebecca Smith:you have to know how to turn my social media into a legacy page.
Angeline Compau:Oh my god.
Rebecca Smith:Because Josh will not know how to do that at all.
Angeline Compau:Oh my gosh. Oh, this is this is stupid. even think about
Rebecca Smith:it. This is this is the stuff that goes through my mind though. Welcome to my world.
Angeline Compau:Oh my god. I'm gonna get you some drugs. I'm just gonna spike your drink. You're not even gonna know. You're gonna be like, Whoa, I feel great.
Rebecca Smith:Okay. Number three. The Warrens are best known for their involvement in this. I'm not going to tell you if you can guess it.
Angeline Compau:Okay.
Rebecca Smith:1975 New York couple George and Kathy Lutz.
Angeline Compau:Oh,
Rebecca Smith:that's gonna give it away.
Angeline Compau:Oh, I know. I know their names.
Rebecca Smith:What is it?
Angeline Compau:the Amityville Horror house.
Rebecca Smith:Yes, I know that just gave it away. Boo.
Angeline Compau:Sorry.
Rebecca Smith:New York couple George and Kathy Lutz claim that their house was haunted by a violent demonic presence so intense that it eventually drove them out of their home. Amityville Horror. The author the Amityville Horror conspiracy author Stephen and Roxanne Caplin characterized the case as a hoax. Ed and Lorraine Warren told a reporter for the Express Times newspaper that Amityville Horror was not a hoax. They reported haunting, was the basis for the 1977 book, The Amityville Horror, and adapted into the 1979 and 2000 films of the same name, and also serving as the inspiration for a film series that followed.
Angeline Compau:That's a scary one.
Rebecca Smith:The Warren's version of events is partially adapted and portrayed in the opening sequence of a conjuring 2.
Angeline Compau:Oh, yeah, yeah, yep.
Rebecca Smith:So did you see the Amityville Horror or read the book?
Angeline Compau:I saw the 2001.
Rebecca Smith:Okay. You didn't see the 79? I don't think so. With who was the guy. I can't think of the guy that's starred in it look it up.
Angeline Compau:I know in 2000 it was Ryan Reynolds.
Rebecca Smith:Yes, it was Ryan Reynolds. I want to say like, I want to say James Brolin. I wonder if I'm right.
Angeline Compau:It is!
Rebecca Smith:it is? Who was the girl?
Angeline Compau:James Brolin
Rebecca Smith:and who was the girl
Angeline Compau:and Margo Kidder
Rebecca Smith:Margot Kidder. Yeah.
Angeline Compau:Yeah. Good one,
Rebecca Smith:see. I know my 1979 horror movies
Angeline Compau:I think I'd like to see the older one.
Rebecca Smith:It's good. I thought the older one was better than the newer one.
Angeline Compau:Oh, it got better reviews on IMDb. So
Rebecca Smith:yeah,
Angeline Compau:yeah.
Rebecca Smith:According to Benjamin Redford, the story was refuted by eyewitnesses, investigations and forensic evidence. In 1979 lawyer William Webber stated that he, Jay Anson, and the occupants invented the horror story over many bottles of wine.
Angeline Compau:I believe that to be honest.
Rebecca Smith:Benjamin Radford was a it's like a famous skeptic of like he's out to debunk all these theories and stuff when I looked him up on Wikipedia.
Angeline Compau:healthy amount of skepticism is cool. I get it.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah, I don't know. Oh, yeah. So he so Jay Anson is the author of the book, but it says on the book on the right on the cover ammityville horror, a true story. So
Angeline Compau:well, the okay. The true part is about the murders that actually happened there. So I get that I get why they would think it was haunted but maybe it really wasn't. I don't know.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah. Okay. So there were claims of physical damage. Okay, so it says the role of father Peck Pecoraro in the story has been given considerable attention during the course of the lawsuit surrounding the case in the late 1970s father picaro stated in an affidavit that his only contact with the Lutz's concerning the matter had been my telephone. Other accounts say father Picaroro did visit the house but experienced nothing unusual there. The claims of physical damage to the lock doors and windows were rejected by Jim and Barbara Cormedy, who bought the house for $55,000 equivalent to $235,000 in 2020. In March of 1977 Barbara Cromedy argued that they appeared to be the original items and not been repaired. The cromedies also revealed that the Red Room was a small closet in the basement and would have been known to the previous owners of the house the Lutz's because it was not concealed in any way. The claim made in chapter 11 of the book that the house was built on a site where the local Shinnecock Indians had once abandoned, the mentally ill and dying was rejected by local Native American leaders. The claim of cloven hoof prints in the snow on January 1 1976, was rejected by researchers Rick Morin and Peter Jordan, whose investigation revealed that there had been no snowfall at that time. Neighbors reported nothing unusual during the time that the letters were living there. Police officers were depicted visiting the house in the book and 1979 film but records showed that the Lutz's did not call the police during the period that they were living on Ocean Avenue. There was no bar in Amityville called the witch's brew at the time. Well, that's just nitpicking.
Angeline Compau:Yeah, all right.
Rebecca Smith:Critics, including Stephen Kaplan, who pointed out that changes were made to the book as it was reprinted in different editions. In the original hardcover edition father Picararo's car is an old tan for I mean, really, and he experiences an incident in which the hood flies up against the windshield while he's driving it. And later editions the car is described as a Chevrolet Vega, so they I guess they were sued?
Angeline Compau:for making shit up
Rebecca Smith:may 1977, George and Kathy Lutz filed a lawsuit against William Weber, the defense lawyer for Ronald defeo, Jr. At his trial, Paul Hoffman, a writer working on an account of the hauntings. Bernard Burton and Frederick Mars both alleged clairvoyants who examined the house along with good housekeeping magazine, The New York Sunday news and the Hearst Corporation that led to his alleged misappropriation of names for trade purposes, invasion of privacy and mental distress. The claims against the news corporations were dropped and the remainder of the lawsuit was heard by Brooklyn US District Court Judge jack B. Weinstein. September 1979, Judge Weinstein dismissed the Lutz's claims. In the September 17 17th 1979 issue of People Magazine, William Weber wrote I know this book is a hoax. We created this horror story over many bottles of wine. This refers to a meeting at the Weber that Weber said is to that Weber is said to have had with George and Kathy Lutz, during which they discussed what would later become the outline of ansons book. See. So they're just trying to cash and it looks like
Angeline Compau:yeah,
Rebecca Smith:George Lutz maintains that the events in the book were mostly true. In June 1979, George and Kathy Lutz took a polygraph test relating to their experiences in the house. The polygraph tests were performed by Chris valgus and Michael rice, who at the time, were reportedly among the top five polygraph experts in America. The result and Rice's opinions did not indicate lying. Oh, the History Channel did a broadcast of Amityville The Haunting and Amityville Horror or hoax. a two part documentary made by horror screenwriter producer Daniel ferens. I'd like to see that
Angeline Compau:me too. Where, where can we watched it.
Rebecca Smith:I don't know
Angeline Compau:I'm gonna google. I'm gonna get on the googs.
Rebecca Smith:Get on the googs, Amityville, the haunting and Amityville Horror or hoax. Various owners of the house since the Lutz family left in 1976 have reported no problems while living there. James Cromartie who bought the house in 1977 and live there with his wife Barbara for 10 years commented nothing weird ever happened except for people coming by because because of the book in the movie that would suck to to have like that kind of famous house and everybody wanting to see it.
Angeline Compau:Yeah. I think the haunting one is on YouTube. Nice. It looks like abc news did something like that.
Rebecca Smith:Oh, really?
Angeline Compau:Maybe
Rebecca Smith:it's got to be other like a bunch of documentaries.
Angeline Compau:I'm sure there is. I'm not sure there is I like the real story of that. Well with the Ronald defeo Jr.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah.
Angeline Compau:murdering his whole family.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah.
Angeline Compau:Even the children which is awful.
Rebecca Smith:I don't think I know why now that like the movie.
Angeline Compau:Yeah. Well,
Rebecca Smith:I'm gonn go back.
Angeline Compau:No, so that's the whole thing is that ronald defeo Jr. murdered his whole family in that house. And then after
Rebecca Smith:and they're the people that are haunting it,
Angeline Compau:yeah, supposedly, I guess. And the Lutz's after Ronald went to jail, they bought the house and all the furniture in it, which is like, why would you do that? You're stupid. They all died in their beds. You're gonna keep their beds?
Rebecca Smith:Ew
Angeline Compau:Yeah he shot all of them while they were sleeping in their beds. So why would you keep those?
Rebecca Smith:No, I wouldn't keep them.
Angeline Compau:Exactly. So you're just asking for a haunting? If you ask me.
Rebecca Smith:You're asking for it
Angeline Compau:you're asking for some fucking ghosts. So that I could believe it. But then what I heard later on that they made it up. I was like that actually seems more likely. In my opinion, I don't know.
Rebecca Smith:So is there there is record of that happening in that house.
Angeline Compau:The murders were real.
Rebecca Smith:Okay.
Angeline Compau:That is for real. Ronald defeo Jr. and he even said he's like, it's not haunted. He was like, You guys are so full of shit. He even came out and said that in jail. Yeah, he was like, y'all are full of shit.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah,
Angeline Compau:yeah.
Rebecca Smith:Ronald, is he still alive?
Angeline Compau:I know. I don't know. Let's see what Mr. Defao'
Rebecca Smith:What's he up to nowadays. I would I would he not up t get the death penalty.
Angeline Compau:six counts of second degree murder. He died. March 12 2021.
Rebecca Smith:Oh, he just died.
Angeline Compau:How did you die?
Rebecca Smith:in prison, right?
Angeline Compau:Yeah, he had to he wasn't Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was in prison. He is he was 69
Rebecca Smith:was he shanked
Angeline Compau:or 70 years old. official cause of death is yet to be determined. He was age 69
Rebecca Smith:bom bom bom
Angeline Compau:weird
Rebecca Smith:haunting. His kids came back and murdered him.
Angeline Compau:Well, no, not his kids. His brothers and sisters. He killed his parents.
Rebecca Smith:Oh,
Angeline Compau:and his little brothers and sisters.
Rebecca Smith:damn
Angeline Compau:idiot.
Rebecca Smith:Cold blooded dude.
Angeline Compau:Yeah, he's uh, yeah. But that's what they were trying to say was that the house was haunted and that's why he went on that murder spree it all of a sudden just snapped and killed his family and that and that's when he said no, that's not what happened.
Rebecca Smith:Oh, I see
Angeline Compau:Yeah, so let's that's where the whole story came up with the Lutz's they were like yeah this house is haunted that's why that guy went nuts now he's going nutss Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:yeah it's all made up then..
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Rebecca Smith:I tend to believe it's all made up
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:All right, let's get that'll be the end of part one.
Angeline Compau:That's okay, that's a good stopping point. I like it
Rebecca Smith:and then we'll do the other ones.
Angeline Compau:Okay,
Rebecca Smith:next time.
Angeline Compau:Okay.
Rebecca Smith:All right. Let's get turd in here.
Angeline Compau:Okay. Turd
Rebecca Smith:If you don't fend for yourself, no one's gonna do it for you.
Josh Smith:Check one check
Angeline Compau:check
Rebecca Smith:coke you guys
Angeline Compau:say hi to Greg.
Josh Smith:I really wish I had a coke. You know who would have got me a coke?
Rebecca Smith:Greg Louganis?
Josh Smith:Greg Louganis would have gotten me a coke
Rebecca Smith:Here's the thing, if you knew how to text properly What does your text say Josh? What did your text to Angeline say?
Josh Smith:Get me a coke
Rebecca Smith:that's not what it said
Angeline Compau:tha't what it said huh?
Josh Smith:you could have figured it out
Angeline Compau:I could have but
Rebecca Smith:she was already here
Angeline Compau:yeah i was reading it here
Josh Smith:you know I would have turned around and if I was on my way to you house
Rebecca Smith:You are a liar
Angeline Compau:I wasn't on my way I was already here.
Josh Smith:I would have I would have gotten back up the hill got into my car and gotten you a coke
Rebecca Smith:You're a liar
Angeline Compau:Yeah, right
Rebecca Smith:he's a liar.
Josh Smith:Not true. That'snot true. Oh updates. Number one.
Angeline Compau:He is Apparently Rob is not the Oak we have we've been informed Rob is a walnut Ha, he's a walnut.
Josh Smith:so, not an oak.
Angeline Compau:That's why we need to have Michelle on so she can fill Josh in.
Rebecca Smith:on the stories
Angeline Compau:and she can give us some dirt and everybody
Rebecca Smith:Yeah,
Josh Smith:yeah, apparently Rob definitely not an oak consensus is in
Angeline Compau:oh
Josh Smith:sorry, Rob.
Angeline Compau:Yeah, little walnut.
Josh Smith:When she goes you should guys you guys should call him the walnut and he goes No, I think Rob goes no, i think i think Oak's pretty good.I thought that was funny. All right. Topic one.
Rebecca Smith:Well wait, we don't get any like pleasantries or just straight in. You're gonna bone us dry.
Josh Smith:Yep
Angeline Compau:Wow
Rebecca Smith:We don't get any lube?
Josh Smith:I did have Oh, I was gonna talk a little bit about the high school game, but I'll do that first
Rebecca Smith:Go ahead
Josh Smith:so high school football first game in a couple years. And
Rebecca Smith:for you,
Josh Smith:yeah. Only the second game in like 20 years or
Rebecca Smith:that you've been to
Josh Smith:Twenty seven years or so. actually more than that. And $2 hamburgers and cheese burgers.
Angeline Compau:Oh, yeah.
Rebecca Smith:Josh's idea of heaven
Josh Smith:So you can go there and I checked with Claxton and it's real beef. Costco Costco burger
Angeline Compau:shut up
Rebecca Smith:Nice
Josh Smith:So
Angeline Compau:That is nice.
Josh Smith:Yeah. And it was lot of fun. A lot of you know, screaming kids everywhere but it was it was
Rebecca Smith:Well, it's a football game
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Josh Smith:we lost in the fourth quarter was pretty good forth quarter was pretty active expept for the whole lost part,
Angeline Compau:right?
Josh Smith:That sucked
Rebecca Smith:and the whole finding a cheeseburger in your pocket thing.
Angeline Compau:That was fourth quarter.
Josh Smith:So I bought the Oak a cheeseburger at the beginning of the game because he was whining that he wanted a cheeseburger, it might have been the first quarter.
Angeline Compau:Oh, yeah.
Josh Smith:But then I said, Hey, I got you one. He said no, I don't want to eat it before I go out on the field.
Angeline Compau:Right? Oh, geez.
Josh Smith:Because his son's homecoming Duke or something. Duke
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Josh Smith:So in the fourth quarter, I'm sitting in the stands and I realized oh my god, I have another cheeseburger in my coat pocket talk about jackpot
Angeline Compau:that was a jackpot
Rebecca Smith:better than finding money
Angeline Compau:it kinda was
Rebecca Smith:For Josh, in Josh's world
Josh Smith:it was, so needless to say I took that jackpot I took that jackpot I took that cheeseburger down It was really good. That was a good game.
Rebecca Smith:Angeline posted it on our instagram
Angeline Compau:oh my god that was so funny. There's a video of you eating it.
Josh Smith:I didn't know you had the video.
Angeline Compau:oh, yeah
Josh Smith:Okay, so a quick updates. First off Husqvarna. Go fuck yourself. What for all of our listeners, I want you to do me a favor all 1000s of you don't buy Husqvarna it's shit. You're paying for quality that isn't there.
Rebecca Smith:What is it?
Josh Smith:they don't support their products they don't have a good warranty program. And then when you need a part, they're useless in getting it because they keep changing part numbers.
Rebecca Smith:What the fuck is Husqvarna?
Josh Smith:Husqvarna makes
Angeline Compau:They like tractors and shit
Rebecca Smith:oh
Josh Smith:They make lawn mowers and weed eaters and chainsaws and
Angeline Compau:weed eaters.
Josh Smith:What do you call it
Angeline Compau:I don't know
Josh Smith:weed whipper
Rebecca Smith:weed whacker.
Angeline Compau:whackers
Josh Smith:so they suck
Rebecca Smith:Whackers
Angeline Compau:I'm a wacker.
Josh Smith:And everything they make is cheap and shitty. Just
Rebecca Smith:i'm sorry
Josh Smith:very upset because my power washer is broken because the starts, it's a year and a half old. So not happy by the way Ace Hardware not happy with you either. So that's why I'm saying that they don't speak highly of you. You suck. And I think that Greg Louganis should never ever buy Husqvarna and, Greg, if you're listening I think you have a bigger voice than we do. Because you're Greg Louganis. Let the world know you're paying you might as well go buy something cheap because it's still better than the expensive crap. You suck Husqvarna. You know what? I take a cheeseburger over you. They suck That's for you. Go fuck yourself. Husqvarna. Alright, next one
Rebecca Smith:I don't even know how to spell that
Josh Smith:I want to say. A big shout out this topic came from Joe turnquest.
Rebecca Smith:JT money
Josh Smith:Angeline does not like you Joe turnquist just as an fyi
Angeline Compau:No, not one bit
Josh Smith:but he did cut he sent me a topic and it's a great one so we're going to cover it
Rebecca Smith:Okay. Ready
Josh Smith:so I I believe and so this Joe which we share this belief that if you're going to wear suit, there's a couple things with respect to men shoes. When you wear a suit. You need to wear nice shoes to go with it. Not shoes with rubber soles. Not fake dress shoes. dress shoes.
Angeline Compau:Okay,
Josh Smith:right
Angeline Compau:i think that's fair.
Josh Smith:now some people don't think that dress shoes means you have to have more of a leather sole fair enough right? nice shoes with a shitty rubber sole won't mean you're pushing it but fair enough. Don't wear fucking tennis shoes.
Angeline Compau:Who would do that?
Josh Smith:Everybody does that. Now all the people in sports and everything they're all wearing. Look, I got nothing against tennis shoes. I have a nice pair. They're really cool
Angeline Compau:There's a time and a place
Josh Smith:but I don't wear them with my suit. Rocksteady has a question
Rebecca Smith:question
Josh Smith:Bebop over here. Nobody knows what that is but
Rebecca Smith:what if they're wearing a nice suit? with shoes? But no socks?
Angeline Compau:Oh,
Josh Smith:not acceptable.
Rebecca Smith:Really?
Josh Smith:You wear socks when you wear a suit. You wear nice shoes. You wear socks. Not white ones.
Rebecca Smith:That's like the in thing now for guys to wear like a shorter pant.
Angeline Compau:Yep. flood
Rebecca Smith:ankle bearing
Angeline Compau:Yep.
Josh Smith:No, we're not
Rebecca Smith:and no socks. But nice shoes.
Josh Smith:None of that shit is acceptable.
Angeline Compau:Okay,
Josh Smith:you shouldn't be wearing shorter pants with a suit your guy don't wear Capri pants. Come on.
Angeline Compau:I don't know
Rebecca Smith:Not Capri pants.
Josh Smith:Yeah, I've seen them. Their Capri pants.
Angeline Compau:there a little, a little longer than capris. But
Rebecca Smith:yeah,
Angeline Compau:I've seen some dudes pulling it off where I'm like, Damn,
Rebecca Smith:yeah,
Angeline Compau:looking good.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah,
Josh Smith:no,
Angeline Compau:yeah.
Josh Smith:Not good
Rebecca Smith:I think that has more to do with the guy than the
Angeline Compau:Yeah, it does have more to do with the guy.
Josh Smith:You're not gonna see me in Capri pants.
Rebecca Smith:Thank God.
Angeline Compau:Yes. I was gonna say that! Thank you. The world is thanking you
Josh Smith:I think that most people most men would agree look dress shoes, go with a suit. It's a standard. You want to wear tennis shoes, get some shorts on Even, or wear some trousers.
Rebecca Smith:Oh my god
Josh Smith:I wanted to use that word.
Angeline Compau:You are so old
Josh Smith:I just wanted to use that word because
Angeline Compau:Trousers?
Rebecca Smith:Trousers?
Josh Smith:Yeah,
Angeline Compau:oh my god
Josh Smith:I like that word
Angeline Compau:slacks, use that one too
Josh Smith:don't wear tennis shoes with slacks. you may wear them with trousers,
Rebecca Smith:Wait, what's the difference between a slack and a trouser I thought they were the same thing.
Josh Smith:trousers more sturdy. Think of Jon Gruden,you know
Angeline Compau:They're the same.
Rebecca Smith:I don't know who that is.
Angeline Compau:They're the same.
Josh Smith:They're not
Angeline Compau:Yeah they are
Josh Smith:They're not at all
Angeline Compau:whatever.
Josh Smith:So that's a really good topic for Joe and I think he is going to stand with us on this. Did also want to give Joe a Go fuck yourself because hey, hey pats bandwagoners, where are ya? I haven't heard a whole lot this year. you fuckers and they're all like no, no, we only cheer cheered for Tom Brady all those years, but they were screaming Bill Belichick And I'll always love them as long as they keep on they kept the system and they fucking suck so suck it Joe and you too Steve Houle even though you don't listen to the show, both of you are on the go fuck yourself bandwagon
Angeline Compau:Yeah, I don't like either of you guys
Rebecca Smith:Who else is on that bandwagon?
Josh Smith:Just those two are the only Pat's knob suckers. And I don't want to go through all my topics because
Rebecca Smith:oh you have to save some because we're gonna do another podcast
Josh Smith:I got two more
Angeline Compau:I got a good one for you.
Rebecca Smith:Angeline, has one
Angeline Compau:I got one. This is back on bathroom etiquette.
Rebecca Smith:Oh boy.
Angeline Compau:If you are a guest at somebody's house, and maybe at your house, you don't want to flush the toilet all the time. At least do it if you go to someone else's house.
Josh Smith:So hold on let's get some background detail. First question. Is this person on a septic field? The house that that did not get flushed?
Angeline Compau:Yes.
Josh Smith:Is the person aware of like are they just a person who's lived in a say their whole life and never had to be in a septic field? Or are they somebody who has a septic field themselves at their house?
Angeline Compau:I don't know and I don't care
Josh Smith:these are important questions now now the most important question
Angeline Compau:Just flush a toilet
Josh Smith:was it a deuce? Or was it a single?
Rebecca Smith:Oh gross
Angeline Compau:Oh my god, ok
Rebecca Smith:If it's brown flush it down people
Josh Smith:Yeah. Was it a deuce?
Angeline Compau:dude. Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:It was?
Josh Smith:Hang on.
Rebecca Smith:There was a floater duce?
Angeline Compau:Yes.
Josh Smith:Was it so somebody took a shit and didn't flush or flushed and probably needed to do a double maybe that was it? I don't know. But I get that some people like live in places where they'd might not have a septic field or well that's like very good and you don't flush but just know that when you go to someone else's house that they probably flush so
Rebecca Smith:no
Josh Smith:you need to remember
Rebecca Smith:no, no, no, the rule
Josh Smith:Yes.
Rebecca Smith:If it's brown flush it down. If it's yellow let it mellow
Angeline Compau:Fuck no, If it's yellow
Rebecca Smith:if it's brown flush it down
Angeline Compau:flush that shit too. I'm not peeing on your pee
Rebecca Smith:I'm just saying, i was told the rule that's the rule
Angeline Compau:no if you pee, that stinks A. you think
Rebecca Smith:gross
Angeline Compau:it's so gross? You're gonna flush your pee I don't care if that's what you want to do at your own house. But if you're at someone else's house, flush your piss that's all i'm gonna say
Josh Smith:your right the owner of the house should
Rebecca Smith:Flush Your Piss
Angeline Compau:Flush Your Piss
Josh Smith:the owner has to let you know the house policy if no policy is specified. ie if brown down yellow mellow, then you need to flush. And you do owe a courtesy to check
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Josh Smith:if you need a double flush
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Josh Smith:you owe that courtesy.
Rebecca Smith:If you drop a duce?
Josh Smith:Yeah, this was a man or woman?
Angeline Compau:I don't want to say
Josh Smith:was it you?
Angeline Compau:no it wasn't me cuz I flush all the time
Rebecca Smith:was it April?
Josh Smith:wait it was it Rob?
Angeline Compau:No, but that is something he would probably do to be funny. He would just leave it floating just to be like yeah, check this out.
Josh Smith:It's okay. If it's if it's if it's another family member and you do it to your other. I mean, it's gross, but it's not it's okay.
Angeline Compau:And sometimes people forget I get it like Okay.
Josh Smith:I have never forgotten to flush a duce in my life
Angeline Compau:Okay. Thank you. Okay, I was trying to be cool
Josh Smith:It's impossible.
Angeline Compau:And I I just you guys just flush. I don't care if you don't do things at your house
Josh Smith:that's awesome, was this at your house?
Angeline Compau:Yeah. And
Rebecca Smith:yeah.
Angeline Compau:A lot of people don't flush pee
Josh Smith:was it your guest?
Angeline Compau:Not my guest. No, but it was a guest but it doesn't matter.
Josh Smith:Was it a gentleman caller?
Rebecca Smith:Was this the guy that likes to pee in parking lots?
Josh Smith:Was this a gentlemen caller that forgot to flush his duce?
Angeline Compau:No.
Josh Smith:That's a good way to end the date. I'm gonna come in your house and take a shit and never see you again. Leave it.
Angeline Compau:My nephews, my nephews will do that they'll like just fucking leave it I'm like, flush the damn toilet.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah,
Josh Smith:that's not good. No, it's a fair message. You know what Greg Louganis would not do that just so you know
Angeline Compau:No he would know he's classy
Josh Smith:Greg Louganis probably doesn't even take shits he's that classy.
Angeline Compau:Probably.
Josh Smith:His body just processes everything.
Angeline Compau:You know what, that's why I like Greg because I would never have to worry about him as a houseguest.
Josh Smith:That's right
Rebecca Smith:Can I just say something funny? Yes. Is that Brian texted me and said do you guys do not talk about Greg Louganis ever since I brought it up so I won. And here we are. I did not tell you anything about that until now and you guys have been talking about Greg Louganis the whole time. funny it's funny
Josh Smith:It's cuz he's our biggest fan to me
Angeline Compau:that we bring up Greg in every episode
Rebecca Smith:yeah but we haven't he says we haven't been talking about him as much, like you may say hi Greg or whatever but we don't talk about it as much but he's all over this one. I didn't even mention it.
Angeline Compau:That's funny.
Josh Smith:I did I did. I'm gonna cut on my topic list because this goes with this. So I was having some tire issues having to fill it up and finally took it in. And of course there's a nail in it.
Angeline Compau:Oh,
Josh Smith:but you know, it's it's Saturday,
Rebecca Smith:I would like it noted for the record that I told you a month ago when you kept having to put air in your tire to go get it there's probably something in it no no no it's just it's just roads it's just road ware
Angeline Compau:road where
Rebecca Smith:the roads where I have to keep filling up the same tire
Josh Smith:yeah so I got that done but here's the deal so it's Saturday I had to run do that and then I had to go try to find a starter for my Husqvarna fuck you Husqvarna still still upset about this by the way just ordered my starter from Amazon and fuck you Husqvarna so
Angeline Compau:yes
Josh Smith:I you know having my coffee cuz they got fresh coffee there so shout out to Brandon tire number one fresh coffee for your customers on a Saturday number two I know they got a clean office area up front you know that's not great it's a tire store but clean you can sit down you can watch a watch a little TV, read a book whatever
Rebecca Smith:you can take your computer plugin they have that table plugin
Josh Smith:I mean it's good setup and here's the best so of course you're having my coffee it's Saturday morning like
Rebecca Smith:you had to poop
Josh Smith:things things things progressed past where I was prepared for
Angeline Compau:oh god
Josh Smith:and I went into the bathroom and I'm gonna tell you what, spotless What a great bathroom
Angeline Compau:10 out of 10 would shit there again!
Josh Smith:yes I would totally shit there again. So the service was great right I came out of the bathroom, waited a few more minutes had another cup of coffee and then they had my stuff
Angeline Compau:and then I shit again...
Josh Smith:I was I was driving up and down the street for another hour waiting to get another shit going but, some it didn't come So
Rebecca Smith:Josh was a came in from walking the dog today and he was standing in the entryway and I saw him he looked like he was like contemplating something What's the matter with he was like feeling the movement and I said I said Well do you think I might have to use the bathroom but he had his boots on and I said don't do it downstairs I said you can do it up here I said better yet just use the bucket in the garage use your shit bucket. Better yet. Go shit Joe's car.
Angeline Compau:There you go
Josh Smith:By the way Don't shit in that bucket. I do pee in the bucket.
Angeline Compau:Ewww
Rebecca Smith:I know
Josh Smith:what's so bad about peeling a bucket
Angeline Compau:Can't you just pee outside?
Josh Smith:I can at night when it's broad daylight that doesn't fly.
Angeline Compau:Oh, i guess that's true
Rebecca Smith:so he pees in the bucket
Josh Smith:i can't just be throwing hoses all day long out in the yard.
Angeline Compau:Wait. So you where do you put the bucket when you're peeing in it?
Rebecca Smith:In the garage
Josh Smith:It's a big five gallon bucket right? I just hit it and then I empty it
Angeline Compau:Oh, ok
Rebecca Smith:Where do you empty it?
Josh Smith:Where are the poison ivy goes to kill it.
Rebecca Smith:Where does the poison ivy grow?
Angeline Compau:does pee kill poison ivy?
Josh Smith:Um, not yet,
Rebecca Smith:Josh's does
Josh Smith:I should have been working on it. I think it holds it at bay
Angeline Compau:that sickk
Josh Smith:so that's a good shout out to Brandon tire.
Rebecca Smith:Good shout out.
Josh Smith:Great job. You know Fuck you. Husqvarna. But good job. Brandon tire? I don't think it's called branded tire anymore by the way.
Rebecca Smith:No, I think it's AC tire.
Angeline Compau:Yeah,
Josh Smith:there you go but it's in ortonville
Angeline Compau:right.
Josh Smith:I don't know.
Rebecca Smith:So whenever you're in the Ortonville area people across the world
Angeline Compau:use their bathroom?
Rebecca Smith:Ortonville, Michigan
Josh Smith:I you know I have some other topics but I got another episode.
Rebecca Smith:Yeah, they're gonna wait.
Josh Smith:So I'm going to hold the other topics I am gonna hold them
Rebecca Smith:we're excited.
Josh Smith:You want me to tell you what the topics are like teaser. Cuz some of these fucker's got to wait a week to hear this shit.
Rebecca Smith:I know,
Josh Smith:let me just give the users a teaser,
Angeline Compau:oh a teaser
Josh Smith:the users, the listeners.
Angeline Compau:The users
Rebecca Smith:You're such a tease
Josh Smith:So I want to talk about women's dress codes.
Angeline Compau:Oh, again,
Josh Smith:I want to talk about women filling their lips up with gelatinous material. I want to talk about hunting and fucking people that don't know where things are in the calendar.
Angeline Compau:Okay,
Josh Smith:cuz you fucking suck.
Rebecca Smith:Now, in your defense on the hunting thing. We were bored by that. But we did get a comment from a listener that is very excited about hunting stuff
Angeline Compau:Yeah, he likes to hear your stuff.
Josh Smith:and also talked to Scott Claxton and who doesn't listen to this and wants us to monetize it.
Angeline Compau:Whatever,
Josh Smith:but he is definitely on my side for this particular rant I need to go on. And I did want to give a shout out to Joe Ashley. For the rest of his prank with the dick like knobs.
Rebecca Smith:Oh he did do those too
Angeline Compau:He did those too!
Josh Smith:My stems on my truck tires.
Rebecca Smith:Did they like those at the tire store
Josh Smith:they didn't say a word. I was wondering if they were gonna say anything. And I have the other ones, I'm not replacing them. I'm just driving those around in shame.
Angeline Compau:Oh my god, I would drive around with the dick stems.
Josh Smith:You want to take them off my car Give me your stems and I can give you my stems
Angeline Compau:I would take them
Josh Smith:Alright, so we're gonna go up to Angeline's car a
Rebecca Smith:Dick stems! d get the dick stems on here. You want the truck nuts too
Angeline Compau:kind of
Josh Smith:I don't have them
Rebecca Smith:no, Joe has them
Angeline Compau:Oh, he took them back.
Josh Smith:Are you gonna put them
Rebecca Smith:Yeah we put them in his car
Angeline Compau:How are you gonna prank somebody?
Josh Smith:We gotta come up with something.
Angeline Compau:Okay, that's right. You put them in his car. I thought he took them back
Rebecca Smith:Yeah, we covered him in the fart spray.
Josh Smith:Yeah, so next week. or later tonight for me. I will take you through these topics. eager beaver listeners.
Angeline Compau:Yeah.
Rebecca Smith:Eager Beaver
Josh Smith:That's all I got.
Rebecca Smith:Is that what we call it listeners. The Eager Beavers?
Josh Smith:It's the Greg Louganis fan club
Angeline Compau:yeah
Rebecca Smith:They're our children cuz we could be their mothers.
Angeline Compau:yeah
Josh Smith:you know I wish Greg Louganis would get back in professional diving so I could just I don't watch the sport. I mean outside the olympics
Angeline Compau:I would if he would dive
Josh Smith:I would I would watch Greg Louganis make a comeback.
Angeline Compau:Me too
Rebecca Smith:Yeah
Josh Smith:I might even go to the event
Rebecca Smith:Really? If Greg Louganis ever comes here we're gonna go
Angeline Compau:I'll go
Rebecca Smith:like for like not to I was gonna say for a stalker thing for like a swimming or diving event or something like a promotional thing with Red Red Bull cliff diving i don't know if there is a cliff in Michigan
Josh Smith:there is in the UP. Speaking that Greg if you're listening you should get the Red Bull diving club to go to the UP to do some cliff diving. It's beautiful. I know you're California and you're cool or Hawaii wherever just you should check out the UP Greg Louganis. You would be like holy crap I didn't know this existed and you'll thank thank us on this show
Angeline Compau:I don't know I wouldn't the UP sucks
Rebecca Smith:Oh burn
Angeline Compau:just saying
Josh Smith:What the fucks wrong with you?
Rebecca Smith:His face. wait, i need to wait, I'm just gonna
Josh Smith:Whats wrong with you?
Rebecca Smith:I'm just gonna Instagram Live Josh's face right now for our...
Angeline Compau:the UP sucks there's nothing up there you want to go up there to die cuz that's what's gonna happen. Your
Josh Smith:there's Marquette?
Angeline Compau:Oh Whoopty fucking do
Josh Smith:there's just just 1000s of acres of forest and mountains and lakes. It's like Alaska in Michigan,
Angeline Compau:No. That's like you go up there for solitude. And then if something ever happens to you, no one's gonna find you. No one's gonna hear you scream for miles you're gonna die.
Josh Smith:The wolves will find you and they'll eat you and you'll commune with nature.
Angeline Compau:See, that's what I'm talking about.
Josh Smith:You're fucking dumb
Angeline Compau:I know.
Rebecca Smith:Josh, the UP sucks.
Josh Smith:I can't that face was spontaneous. The face I made at Angeline was spontaneous.
Angeline Compau:It was great
Rebecca Smith:Josh. Jasper's a turd.
Josh Smith:No, no, no. He is. where's that fucking dog.
Rebecca Smith:I don't know
Angeline Compau:he's being good.
Josh Smith:Five bucks says he's in my bean bag.
Rebecca Smith:We're ive on Instagram.
Angeline Compau:Don't jinx it. He's gonna come up here
Josh Smith:He's in my bean ag. He's on the bean bag righ now. you just said don't fucking jinx it. telling me not to say the F word.
Angeline Compau:The UP fucking sucks just FYI fuck you, upper peninsula fuck you.
Josh Smith:Wow,
Rebecca Smith:she has opinions
Angeline Compau:it's just boring. There's nothing to do up there.
Josh Smith:Hunt, fish
Angeline Compau:nothing to do
Josh Smith:hike
Rebecca Smith:hunt angeline, you can hunt and fish and hike
Josh Smith:Cliff dive if you're Greg Louganis.
Angeline Compau:You know what I like to be social and there's not a lot of people up there and the people that are up there
Josh Smith:that might be better for people
Angeline Compau:I question them because why do you want to be so far away from other people? are you killing people you serial killers.
Josh Smith:It might be better for other people if you socialize a little less
Rebecca Smith:Josh wants to live in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan forever.
Angeline Compau:He's a funny guy. that was funny. I'll give you that.
Josh Smith:All right, Greg
Rebecca Smith:Say bye to our Instagram Live listeners right now.
Angeline Compau:I have never been live on instagram ever in my life before
Rebecca Smith:yeah, it is on our instagram podcast account I know, this is so exciting!
Josh Smith:Is this live? For our podcast account? Let's go Dallas.
Rebecca Smith:We have one person that joined
Angeline Compau:who?
Rebecca Smith:I Know!
Angeline Compau:Who is it?
Josh Smith:is it Greg Louganis?
Rebecca Smith:it was Anna Forcier,
Angeline Compau:Hi Anna!
Josh Smith:which is Anna's that is basically Greg Louganis, his account. He just doesn't like to sign in as himself.
Rebecca Smith:No,
Josh Smith:I knew it.
Angeline Compau:Anna would agree with me that the Upper Peninsula sucks.
Josh Smith:No she wouldn't
Angeline Compau:She might.
Josh Smith:Alright we have to end the show. So I can go put the dick knobs on Angeline's car.
Rebecca Smith:Alright? Bye
Josh Smith:Bye, dick knobs
Angeline Compau:Dick knobs
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